r/shares – Technical ideas about PLTR


Hi there guys, I have been eager to broaden about my ideas on Palantir. I’ve been making an attempt to include my pleasure for awhile as a result of I actually did not need this firm to turn out to be a meme or something (I completely didn’t assist with a few of my posts about it) however I do wish to share my understanding in regards to the tech and this firm. I will attempt to chorus from posting any ineffective data that is simply going to return off a pumping the inventory any longer.

Let me simply begin this off by requesting that we omit the moral and morality discussions and give attention to the know-how. I have no idea sufficient and thus don’t should have opinions concerning the philosophical facets of the know-how. The one factor I can say for sure is that for higher or worse, this know-how will change lives.

I will start with the fundamentals, I will attempt to simplify it as a lot as I can, but it surely does assist if in case you have some normal understanding about software program and the way a pc works….

Pure Language Processing

Think about that now we have an enormous electronic mail knowledge set, terabytes of emails collected. We wish to discover out at any time when an individual named John Doe, who lives in Iowa, was talked about or concerned in an electronic mail chain. We activity an information analyst, engineer, or a developer to search out all this knowledge factors.

No drawback, I will simply write up some code that identifies the e-mail by the sender and recipient with John Doe’s electronic mail tackle.

A naive strategy. This strategy would undoubtedly discover emails that concerned John Doe however fully miss out any mentions of John Doe that didn’t have him concerned the within the electronic mail chain, to not point out, you would wish a listing of all of John Doe’s emails which can be data that’s already onerous to return by.

Okay, I can cowl my bases by looking for the phrase John Doe within the topic and physique electronic mail.

Nice, we pulled in additional knowledge that might be emails speaking about John Doe. You then notice the truth that individuals name him Johnny Boy, JD, Joe, Mr. Doe, Doe Man.

Effectively shit, how can I probably cowl each permutation of this individual’s identify? To not point out, there appears to be different John Doe that does not appear to be the identical John Doe who lives in Iowa that we’re searching for coming again within the outcomes.

Hopefully you can begin to see the issue. It will be unimaginable for a programmer telling the machine what to search for to provide you with each doable permutations and edge circumstances to search out the knowledge we’re searching for. You assume to your self, we will have to rent 1000’s of individuals to learn by means of terabytes of knowledge to determine the emails we wish. You then begin to assume, how would a human really determine John Doe from textual content and decide that THAT is the John Doe we’re searching for? The reply is within the context of the e-mail. If the individual is speaking about Johnny Boy’s burger shack in Iowa, it is doubtless the John Doe we’re searching for. But when the individual is speaking about Mr. Doe’s funding agency in Panama, then that is in all probability one other Mr. Doe (thought a fairly shady one in case you’d as me).

Now, how will we get a pc to know a context of phrases, how can we switch that ability to a pc program? We are able to use machine studying. People can determine examples of John Doe and train the machine that that is what we’re searching for, by means of a feed again loop we will frequently enhance the understanding of this “mannequin” and train the machine to determine the particular block of data we’re searching for.

Clearly this does not simply work for names. You may be particular as you need and as normal as you need. Say telephone numbers, (111) 222-3333 may be written as 111-222-3333, 111.222.3333, 111 222 3333, 111 CAB-3333, and the record goes on.

Pure Language Understanding

Okay, we now wish to discover out the place he is been and what he has been as much as. How we an engineer go about fixing this drawback? Once more, there would not appear to be a straightforward strategy to accomplish this. We all know tips on how to determine entities, we will really apply the identical ideas we used to show the machine tips on how to determine John Doe.

He is reserving a flight to Moscow for 01/02/2023

We already know that “He is” is referring to John Doe. We all know that “Moscow” is a location by means of Pure Language Processing and we all know that “01/02/2023” is a date by means of named-entity recognition. We are able to train the machine that that is an instance of journey and label this complete sentence as a “motion”. We hope that the machine can determine and hint is location simply by all of the cookie crumbs left behind. We are able to then construct a map of all of the locations he is been to by tracing all of the recognized “motion” factors, type them by date seize the places.

Why Palantir

A number of the criticisms have detailed how a whole lot of this know-how is open sourced which is true. A number of this tech are nonetheless widespread academia analysis subjects. This additionally implies that there are progress being made to it each single day. Nevertheless, the ideas and know-how could also be open sources however the options and strategies you construct round it decide the effectiveness of the product. There’s a widespread saying in academia that goes like this.

Rubbish in, rubbish out

Utilizing the identical method in coaching your fashions might yield outcomes however would not technically imply they’d yield nice outcomes. Producing a very good mannequin has so much to do with how clear your knowledge is, how nicely you tuned the training course of, how nicely your options and weights are constructed across the algorithm.

When authorities/companies think about using these merchandise, they often create a bake-off and analyze the efficiency and options included in every product. They use metrics like precision/recall that determines what number of knowledge factors that the machine recognized from the reality set and what number of knowledge factors that the machine missed. These metrics are necessary to the shoppers for a lot of causes one among which is as a result of it could actually probably imply they miss or waste time on knowledge factors that make them nowhere and is especially necessary for purposes like protection. If the federal government picked Palantir, you may be assured that they’re the highest of their class.


A number of posts have talked about that Palantir sends consultants and is subsequently a consulting firm. Which I do not disagree that their “Ahead Deployed Engineers” are technically consultants. Nevertheless, these consultants DO serve a function. The ideas and purposes listed here are nonetheless being found out there at present. I would like to consider these consultants as technical gross sales consultants. Firms at present do not essentially perceive the worth of their knowledge and what may be performed with it. A number of their knowledge are simply noise at present. They retailer it and are unable to do something with this. It’s mandatory for somebody with the skillset to return in and construct the foundations required/clear up the info for firms to start out leveraging it. Nevertheless as soon as the worth turns into seen, it appears to be a really sticky proposal and turns into evident that it’s a leg up amongst their opponents. We do not presently have sufficient expertise within the work drive at present which have the flexibility to return in and shift the info evaluation panorama. It is usually very costly to do inhouse. Having Palantir are available in with their consultants is de facto simply these firms dipping their toe in to the ocean for the advantages that’s to return.

Very last thing

Hopefully this offers you guys a bit extra details about Palantir’s tech and notice that you just guys can see how a bit of little bit of creativity in extracting data from knowledge utilizing the instruments Palantir offers is sport altering.

I’ll go away you all this this xkcd comedian that I discovered was very consultant of the issue at hand. Generally, it may be tough to clarify the distinction between the the simple and the just about unimaginable.



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